Simon
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Laws of Cricket Question 2The bowler bowls a no ball. The batsman hits it into the off side and runs one complete run and has crossed with the other batsman for the second when the fielder has a shy at the stumps. The fielder misses the stumps and the ball travels all the way to the boundary. By the time the ball crosses the boundary the batsmen have completed the second run and have crossed for a third.
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Simon
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Well done to the three of you that said seven runs.
It is broken down as follows
* One run for the no ball
* One run for the completed run before the overthrow occurred
* One run for the run that was partially completed when the overthrow happened (as the batsmen had crossed)
* four runs for the the ball crossing the boundary
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Mark
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i make that 8
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Jules
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1+1+1+4 = 8????
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Mark
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well the way i read it (im prepared to be flamed) is -
* One run for the no ball
* Two runs were completed before the overthrow occurred
* One run for the run that was partially completed when the overthrow happened (as the batsmen had crossed)
* four runs for the the ball crossing the boundary
so i make it 8 if as you state the partially completed run counts which im not sure is correct..... is it???
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bailbreaker
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I voted for EIGHT RUNS!!!!!!I'm with you skipper. Please can i be in your team next year?
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bailbreaker
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I think the question is; when does a run become a run? surely it's after the batsmen have crossed!
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DavidU
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Obviously I'm prepared to blame Simon for bad wording of the question, but I beleive the 3rd run is on the overthrow only, as is the boundary - and you can't count runs and boundaries for the same action - sadly.
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Simon
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You are correct David.
There was nothing wrong with the wording of the question although I probably could have expanded on my answer to make it clearer.
The overthrow occurs as the fielder shies at the stumps not when the ball crosses the boundary. Therefore the batsman get the first run completed before the run out attempt plus they get the partially completed second run (as they had crossed).
The fact that they completed the second run and had nearly run a third is immaterial as the ball crossed the boundary.
So the batting side get
* one run for the no ball
* two runs (one for the completed run and one for the partially completed run as the ball is thrown at the stumps)
* four for the boundary
Therefore seven runs
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Mark
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now i would have said (and im sure you will correct my ignorance) that all completed runs count until the ball crosses the boundary.....
so i agree with 7 runs just not your explanation 
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bailbreaker
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i agree with you skip
I understand the aussies are in a quandery concerning their bowlers.
OH DEAR WHAT A SHAME. 
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Rushy
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you're such a suck up barry
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Simon
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Mark - In the majority of cases in cricket only completed runs count. In the case of an overthrow this is not the case.
The full rule can be found in Law 19.6 entitled 'Boundaries - overthrow or wilful act of fielder'
Basically it says that if the ball crosses the boundary because of an overthrow (or by wilful act of the fielder) then the batsman will be awarded:-
a) any no balls, wides or penalty runs and
b) four runs for the boundary and
c) any completed runs and the run in progress (if the batsman have crossed) at the instant of the throw (or act)
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Mark
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i stand corrected
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